The Thornton Windlass Innards

Copyright 2010 by James P. Riser


This web page was created to assist owners in the repair of the last style of Thornton Windlass. The arbor on this model differs greatly from the earlier models. I do not consider this design an improvement.

 

When disassembling the Thornton, it will be seen that the bottom spring sits in a separate case within the bottom of the outer case.

The brass center piece sticking up is riveted through the inner and outer cases and can not be removed.

The two cases are securely joined.

 

 

 

Riveted center post.

 

The outside end of the spring hooks onto the inner case wall.

 

The inside end of this spring looks like this.

 

 

The arbor slips down over the brass center piece.

The bent end of the spring shown above slips into the slot of this arbor.

This is what secures the spring end.

If the reel is allowed to freely retract, the shock can cause this or the other spring to jump out of the arbor slot resulting in no tension on the reel drum.

 

 

 

This is the drum into which the secord spring fits and onto which the thread is wound.

 

The barrel for the second spring is shown here - outside and inside with its spring. The inner end of this spring is bent back on itself just like the other spring. It hooks into the same slot as the bottom spring.

 

 

 

Shown below is how the springs hook onto the arbor slot.

 

 

 

The top spring barrel is held in place within the drum by 3 holes punched through the rim of the drum.

 

 

 

 

Shown here next to the arbor is the arbor bearing.

 

 

Here is a close-up of the arbor bearing.

Notice that there are a number of staking tool marks around

the ledge of the small brass circumference.

This is where the bearing was originally staked to the

hole in the drum.

Allowing the reel to freely retract can cause this to become

separated from the drum. This is a real problem with the design.

 

 

 

 

This is the inside of the drum hole where the arbor bearing was staked holding the bearing and drum together.

 

 

Assembled things look like this.

 

The smaller part of the arbor bearing will need to be very delicately filed at the staking marks so that it will once again tightly fit into the drum hole. Do not take off too much brass! To reattach the brass to the drum can be problematic. The drum with all attached springs in position must be slightly lifted to raise it out of the case. Toothpicks may be inserted to hold the drum in this elevated position. The drum hole area and the discs of the bearing arbor must be oil free. Clean with lacquer thinner, acetone, etc. Once the surfaces are clean and the arbor bearing sunk into the drum hole, everything can be secured with a drop of Loctite. The Loctite will flow by capillary action. Do not use more than a drop or two or you can lock up the reel!

Preferred method of repair would be be micro TIG welding the bearing brass to the drum (very expensive equipment).

Notice the arrow on the drum. It is turned in this direction to wind the springs. Turning in the other direction will unhook the inner ends of the springs! The thread is also wound around the drum in this direction. 40 feet of thread is plenty.

Thorntons are delicate and only fine clear oil should be used for lubrication. Use only a few drops if needed.

If the arbor bearing has popped from the drum hole on a Thornton, the drum will sit too low in the outer case and rub making noise.

Good luck with this nightmare of a reel!